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zefanya sibarani
Asked 9 years ago
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I solved this using algebra but anyone can solve this using models? Thanks.
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Rye Tan
I will.... But can you repost the question in the correct orientation?
6 years ago
Eunice Leong
4 units actually equals 252 + 300
=552
1 unit =138
Thus Sufia left 138
6 years ago
Soo Vei Li
4 units = 552
6 years ago
Rye Tan
6 years ago
zefanya sibarani
Thanks everyone!
6 years ago
Raymond Ng
6 years ago
Selina Esther Lim
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P5 ques... Help!
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Chia-Chan Bk
200% is not 1/5
6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li
200% is actually 2 times (200/100, omit all the 0, hence you will get 2), meaning Elle has 2 times as many muffins as Francis.
Hope the answer is correct and the working helps you !
6 years ago
Jolene Koh
May I know how to explain to kid 9u - 18 = 3x ~ x4
10u - 14 = 4x ~ x3
TQ
6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li
Make equations based on the model drawings. Thus,
Diana 9◻️ - 18 muffins = 3x
Francis 10◻️ - 14 muffins = 4x
6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li
Since the question wants Elle, meaning we want 20 ◻️, hence you have to get rid of X.
If your child doesn't understand what is u, you can use ◻️ instead..
The correct answer is $840 but solving it requires student to work with 'parts' and 'units' which is not expected of students at this level nor PSLE.
6 years ago
Chek HG Moon
Hmm… please show working, thanks
6 years ago
Eunice Leong
Let y be the total. Y/8 +175 + 455 + shoes = y
Y/8 + 175 +455 + 3/11(y - 455) =y
Y=840
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
Units and parts IS in the PSLE syllabus... Can a model method solve this problem?
6 years ago
Eunice Leong
Yes a model can help. This question touches on fractions too
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
Eunice Leong..tried using model but is difficult to cut bcoz 455 is not divisible by 11...
Can only think of algebraic method...but need to explain to my kid...
Care if someone can draw the model...
6 years ago
Rye Tan
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
Thanks Rye Tan....its quite complicated with the fractions.. wondering whether a PSLE student can comprehend this..hopefully this QN will not be in this year PSLE....
Once again..thank you
6 years ago
Chek HG Moon
It's really complicated. I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for the effort and answer.
6 years ago
Rye Tan
Do you need any help in the explanation?
6 years ago
Chek HG Moon
Yes, Ryan Tan, thanks.
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
From the model I gather that 1 unit=$35....total 24units
13units--$455
3units-shoes
8units-$175+ 1/8 of 24 units
8units= $175+3 units
5units=$175
1 unit=$35..
That is what I see from the model...is it really necessary for those fractions with 'weird' denominators..LOL
6 years ago
Rye Tan
6 years ago
Rye Tan
Izam how did you get 24 units in the first place? G&C?
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
Sorry I was calculating 8/8 minus 175- 1/8 as 7/8-$175 which is wrong!! Got a negative value for the shoes...so I should agree that the fractions like 175/8 is necessary for this..
Thanks once again
6 years ago
Chek HG Moon
Okay, I got it. Thanks
6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li
Chek HG Moon - my P5 girl used a slightly different way to solve this question. Since they have the same denominator, she omitted them (eg 7/8 became 7u and 8/8 became 8u). No need to do complicated decimals. Hope it's correct to do it this way !
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
Pauline Vong Nyit Li...after going thru what we had gone thru yesterday your working is showing 3 units for shoes which is not possible unless its an assumption... Decimals is definitely required for these question...
How do you get the shoes to be rightly 3 units in the first place?
6 years ago
Rye Tan
IMO, this problem has errors everywhere. If I remember correctly, even when the final answer is $840, the price of the shoes does not end in 2 d.p.
6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li
Izam Marwasi it is a fact not an assumption. Question says 3/11 of the remaining money on shoes, hence 3◻️ is for shoes and 8◻️ is for watch ($175) + left with 1/8.
6 years ago
Izam Marwasi
No ...I don't think so...your working does not show that...
6 years ago
Rye Tan
Pauline's solution is correct. It is the standard solution for "units and parts".