Candy Chan
Asked 9 years ago

SG chevron_right Primary 5 chevron_right Number and Algebra

Need help again. Pls show the working & provide explanation.Thanks in advance

Replies 9

Izam Marwasi

6 years ago
Candy Chan

May i know how you get this 200u (cookies)?

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

Working backwards, 70% of remainder = 134 + 6 = 140 Remainder = 140 × 10/7 = 200 15% of total = 200 - 5 = 195 Since 15% = 3/20, Total number of cookies = 195 × 20/3 = 1300

6 years ago
Pauline Vong Nyit Li

Work backwards.. See red ink then black ink.. Hope it helps !

6 years ago
Candy Chan

Thank you all. Hopefully my girl can understand.

6 years ago
Izam Marwasi

Candy Chan...u can just assume any number of units..to work from the front But pls do follow Xavier Sng and Pauline Vong Nyit Li methods of working backwards.. I will not be able to do that as my reverse gear is faulty..haahaa. Pauline ...your model methods is quite interesting..

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

You are most welcome, Candy. Regards

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

Not to worry, Izam. Your method is perfectly fine. We are all providing different variations that is all, and it is beneficial if Candy's daughter can choose one of the approaches that she is most comfortable with.

6 years ago
Candy Chan

You are right meh, Xavier Sng! She has more choice to choose. Thank q.....

6 years ago

Joyce Kum
Asked 9 years ago

SG chevron_right Primary 4 chevron_right Number and Algebra

My friend's daughter P4 math question. Need help please. Thanks.

Replies 14

Maggie Lukes

Do they give the mass of each coin?

6 years ago
Joyce Kum

Maggie Lukes, no leh..

6 years ago
Linda M Haden

How to solve? Make assumption - note the lightest; 50 cents heaviest and 20 cents in the middle. Maybe actually weigh items?

6 years ago
William Chong

since there are 3 types of coins and there are 9 in total, that will be 3 sets . N 52.47/3 give us 12.47. Hence, implying that there are 3 coins for each set.

6 years ago
Maggie Lukes

If you have the coins, you could weigh them, but that seems a lot for a math question.

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

I agree with William Chong's answer. I also concur with Maggie Lukes that this question is asking for a lot from a ten-year-old (P4 level).

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

By the way 52.47 ÷ 3 = 17.49

6 years ago
Chong Ji Lian

But in the answer have the weight of the coins. These were done by the child of given in class by teacher?

6 years ago
Raymond Ng

If you check the workings in the picture, the masses are given as 6.3g, 7.29g, 4.5g respectively. So I believe there were additional information given but not shown in the picture. Based on guess and check, the number of coins are 2, 3, 4, respectively.

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

If indeed the given masses of the three types of coins were given ab extra, a student strong in mathematics and observation can determine the number of each type of coins without the use of guess-and-check for this particular question. The student can remove the masses of one of each coin initially. 52.47 - 6.3 - 7.29 - 4.5 = 34.38 Since the mass of the 50-cent coin is given to two decimal places, and the hundredths place of that mass is 9 while hundredths place in 34.38 is an 8 suggests that two 50-cent coins can be removed from 34.38g. 34.38 - 7.29 - 7.29 = 19.8 Only the mass of the $1-coin has a 3 in the tenths place. Since there are only 4 more coins to account for, that can only point to the fact that the mass of one single $1-coin can be removed from 19.8g. 19.8 - 6.3 = 13.5 13.5 = 3 × 4.5 accounting for three 20-cent coins. So the numbers of $1, 50-cent and 20-cent coins are 2,3,4 respectively.

6 years ago
Raymond Ng

Alternatively, the 2nd Decimal place is 7. So there must be 3 50cent coins. So 1st try: 3 3 3 -> exceed 2nd try: 2 3 4 -> bingo ☺

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

Good point. 52.47 - (3 × 7.29) = 30.6 accounting for three 50-cent coins. 30.6g right? No brainer, without doing a guess-and-check for 3-3-3 there can only be two $1-coins since the tenths place of 30.6 is 6. 2,3,4. No guess-and-check needed. Better.

6 years ago
Joyce Kum

Thanks everyone!

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

Glad to help out, Joyce. Regards

6 years ago

Mohi Uddin Ahmed
Asked 9 years ago

SG chevron_right Primary 3 chevron_right Geometry

Interesting question, what do you think?

Replies 23

Zhong Shu Hao

15

6 years ago
Jojo Celestino

15..

6 years ago
Jackie Keepers

What techniques did you guys use to solve it?

6 years ago
Ban Har Yeap

Depending on the test objective, it may be a poor test item. It is likely used to assess if students can tell parallel sides and students who know parallel sides get this item incorrect. Non-trivial ability in counting is needed to get the correct answer. It is good for class discussion though.

6 years ago
Ng Foo Keong

Poorly worded. what do you mean by a "parallel" side? ("parallel" is a relation between at least two objects, not an adjective describing single objects ... unless you define ... )

6 years ago
Mohi Uddin Ahmed

I think this was from an 11+ (entrance exam to grammar schools and some independent schools) moc test in the UK. A lot of non-verbal reasoning stuff in 11+ too, which I totally hate!

6 years ago
Mohi Uddin Ahmed

...or I should say I'm very rusty with non-verbal reasoning!

6 years ago
Ng Foo Keong

need 3D visualisation. but you can use left-brained logic too: e.g. every long side corresponds to two short sides. But the thing that annoyed me was the word "parallel". it's like the word "equal" in "all men are equal. some are more equal than others".

6 years ago
Mike Tan

Lousy question, there are many paired combinations which can easily confuse students. For Shape A, there are 5 lines which make up the longest edges of the figure and that alone has 10 possible pairs of combinations. The shorter edges at the side also have 5 possible pairs of combinations. Therefore, 15 pairs of parallel edges for shape A.

6 years ago
Ng Foo Keong

if you define a parallel side as "a side for which there exists at least one other side that is parallel to it", then 15 is the legit answer. Otherwise it is more precise to say that there is one equivalence class of parallel sides consisting of 5 members, and 5 other equivalence classes of parallel sides consisting of 2 members each.

6 years ago
Mohi Uddin Ahmed

The answer they are looking for is 15.

6 years ago
Mohi Uddin Ahmed

It is a poor question though. I think most students will write 10 as their answer,

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

Good day, Mohi. It may not be a good question, but in life most issues we encounter are not good ones too. Haha. Nevertheless it is a fun question to discuss for adults and an eye-opener for youngsters to take a crack at. The question can be a seperator to ferret out youngsters who can visualise a solid from a two-dimensional diagram. Thank you very much for bringing it up.

6 years ago
Mohi Uddin Ahmed

Definitely good for discussions Xavier!

6 years ago
Jason Oon

Can it be 5 pairs since they didn't mention that is a 3D shape?

6 years ago
Mike Tan

Jason you got a point there, it just mentions shape so taking the shape to be what we see, there should only be 5 pairs of parallel lines. Good one there.

6 years ago
Martin Thong

I am more interested in the thought process of the student in order to solve this.

6 years ago
Xavier Sng

4+3+2+1 + 5=15

6 years ago
Devi Prakash

4+2+1+3=15

6 years ago
Devi Prakash

Sorry 4+2+1+3+5 =15 15 is the answer

6 years ago
Debbie Lim

15

6 years ago
Lukas Lee

One part of it is like the subject permutation and combination and the other two ends are probably testing on visual. Some students will like such question.

6 years ago
Priya Krishnan

7 pairs

6 years ago

Jason Oon
Asked 9 years ago

SG chevron_right Primary 5 chevron_right Number and Algebra

P5 CA2 Paper 2 question. This question is similar to the previous one which I posted. Hope this helps the parents over here.

Replies 0

Candy Chan
Asked 9 years ago

SG chevron_right Primary 5 chevron_right Number and Algebra

Replies 6

Pieter Cronje

6 years ago
Jason Oon

100% - 30% = 70% 70% -> $245 100% -> $245 / 70 x 100 = $350

6 years ago
Soo Vei Li

The working in the photo shows that the student is not clear about what the figures given mean -- that 245 is after discount and therefore not represented by 100%. Perhaps it's a good idea to point out to him/her that 100% should represent the original value or the whole. So that's why it's not correct to work out 30/100 *245 for the answer. A model can be drawn to show that 70% rep 245 and we are looking for the amount represented by 100%.

6 years ago
Candy Chan

Tks to all you😀

6 years ago
Candy Chan

Tks Vei Li Soo!!

6 years ago
Jugal Balani

let take the value to be x x-30%x=245( according to ques.) x-0.3x=245 0.7x=245 x=245/0.7 x=350

6 years ago